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[surranndie]

Okay, so here's this. I really hope this is all I am going to say about this, since I prefer to keep this journal about fandom stuff and general happy-making things. It's not a diary - it's an indulgence.

Re: Prop 8.
To: Flist

Um. Yeah. I've seen several people screaming about how much California sucks and how much they hate "us" for passing this atrocity.

YOU ARE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR AND ALL THAT ACCOMPLISHES IS MAKING ME FEEL EVEN WORSE.

If you're on Livejournal and I am on your flist, that means you are gay-friendly. So screaming at your flist, who I have to assume is ALSO mostly gay-friendly, about how much they suck for something they were most likely not responsible for, seems childish and catty.

So - yeah. Thanks for making my "No" vote feel even more pointless. It's bad enough we live in a state that passes something like that and in Red Orange County, but let me at least be able to look at my flist as something to amuse me and not something to fear.

Comments

[kseda.livejournal.com]

D:
Sorry.

[koslorollo.livejournal.com]

*hugs and cake*

[eleanor-ariail.livejournal.com]

Ugh, not cool. I, for one, look up to California for getting this close, and while it's disappointing that it passed, I think it was close enough to give hope for the near future.

Your 'No' vote was so important, especially in a race that close. Mine sure didn't feel like much in 2006, when it was 78% to 22% here, but even that did some good to let people know that there are a few open-hearted people in the state.

[leftover-hobbit.livejournal.com]

Well you know how I voted, as much as it helped the cause. I just keep staring at the 95% of the precincts reporting go up to 100 and it magically flips. Absentee ballots anyone? Pretty please make me feel better???

[cenobitetx.livejournal.com]

My darling, take heart.

First, never think your vote is without value. Ever. Without it, we are chattel in society, not citizens. The women a hundred years ago who studied law and passed the bar when they would never be allowed to stand in a courtroom, sit on a jury, or be a judge - did that to prove to us that limits on them were the limits on all of us. That was damaging to them, to their minds, to their spirit was a poison in the 'accepted view' of how the world should be. Inez Mulholland, who died in California speaking out for votes for women. Her words were, "Mr. President, how long must women wait for liberty?" When you voted against Prop 8, you made your voice known, took a stand against a moral and legal wrong. You stood before the tank, and no amount of crowing by anyone else will change that. I'm in Texas with a 'Stop The Wolf Killer' sign that I had printed up standing right in my front lawn. I wore the matching tshirt pretty much everywhere. This did not make me popular with my not just my neighbors, but my own parents. You did the right thing, the just thing. Which reminds me again what an incredible person you are, and how lucky I am to know you.

What does this have to do with anything? A lot. Because it reminds us that a majority accepted injustice is still an injustice and what history tells us again and again, is that when American Citizens are denied what is only justly theirs as Citizens, there is only so long that will be allowed to last.

You were hit with a majority of people who refuse to see the world past their own nose and their own view of America and how it works. THEY ARE WRONG. The company that you are in is bitter, but by heaven it is sweet, too. It is the likes of Inez Mulholland, The Attorneys who argued Virginia vs. Loving, who marched in the South, who tore up their pay vouchers rather than share in unequal pay, who demanded fire escapes for immigrant workers in the sweat shops, who refused to support child labor, who lobbied the state department and treasury to visas for the Jews being murdered in Europe, all of whom saw that a country by the people and for the people is ALL the people - and making that exist means sacrifice, heartache and sitting next the jerk on the bus who crows and listening to the well meaning person wanting to paint all of the state with the same brush in of angry righteousness.

We fight an uphill battle, those of us who can see farther than our own nose and our own comfort. We suffer a lot because we can see that the Chimps are driving the bus. It's exasperating, exhausting and painful at times. But never let them forget that you are there. They've won the battle. We'll win the war.

Otherwise America is not the country that it has show me again and again that it is.

[puffballzeri.livejournal.com]

I do take heart that it passed by an incredibly narrow margin, thanks to people like you. :)

Still, I think what is truly disgusting is that California was voting to take the right away. To me, nothing is more unAmerican than revoking someone's right. I think Rachel Maddow summed it up best, "People have been living in California with gay marraiges for months and the sky hasn't fallen yet, what makes them think it's going to start?" (Or something along that line.) Other states simply banned it outright, but California had to the choice to take it away.

I think that the slim margin speaks volumes that attitudes are continuing to change. So, thank you. People like you give me hope and let me know that I'm not a jabbering lunatic.

[annehiro.livejournal.com]

You'd think they'd be yelling at MY state. We've gone and double banned it!

[amedia.livejournal.com]

YOU ARE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR AND ALL THAT ACCOMPLISHES IS MAKING ME FEEL EVEN WORSE.

I sorta felt that way about a thinly-disguised election-day political rant disguised as slash that I got suckered into reading under the impression that it was, you know, a story ...

But whereas that was a generic irritation for me, what you're describing sounds painful for you! Please accept my sympathies and hugs and half-naked embracing soccer boys (points to icon). *hugs*

[trjessie579.livejournal.com]

*HUGS!* for you.

I just have to hope that this will eventually be made right.

[erynn999.livejournal.com]

The margins for passage of crap like that are getting thinner, and each one of us that votes against it makes it more possible that change will finally come. You done good in voting against it and I'm proud of you. Challenges are already being filed and it will continue to be fought. I have hopes we'll see equality in our lifetimes.

*hug*